Martin Black: Equine Dentists versus Vets

Martin Black

Horseman Martin Black grew up on the Ace Black family ranch in Bruneau, Idaho, and was influenced by his father, grandfather Albert and uncle Paul Black. After school he worked on ranches in Idaho, Nevada, and California, working with top horsemen and bridlemen, Charlie and Bill Van Norman, Ray Hunt, and Tom Dorrance, among many others.

Over the years, he has started thousands of colts and now travels throughout the U.S., Europe, and Australia, offering horsemanship, ranch, and roping clinics. He is the co-author with Dr. Steve Peters, of Evidence-Based Horsemanship.

Here, Black weighs in on the debate – some might call it a battle – between those favoring equine dentists or veterinarians for dental care.

Martin Black writes:

Black presents with Dr. Steve Peters at 2017 BHP Summit

Equine dentistry is becoming a popular topic recently in the horse world. Along with the demand for the service comes a battle between two groups providing the service: certified equine dentists (CEDs) and doctors of veterinary medicine (DVMs).

I am no expert on anything. I have no PhD, DVM, or even a CED. But I start over 350 head of colts and work with over 1,000 head of horses on an annual basis, and have for the last decade.

I have family members and friends who are DVMs and CEDs and I have no bias toward either one. But what I experience in my travels and what I read disturbs me.

I think anyone that cares about their horses needs to educate themselves on equine dentistry and the politics that are being shoved down our throats. Some states are trying to define existing laws and pass new laws that that would only allow a DVM, or persons assisted by a DVM to practice equine dentistry.

Photo by Kathy McCarty/Presque Isle Star-Herald Steven Akeley, a licensed equine dentist, demonstrates on his horse, Tori, what to look for when checking a horse for dental problems

One of the arguments vets have is that the equine dentists are not licensed to administer drugs to a horse. This may be law, but I don’t’ see vets coming down on farriers, horse transporters, and others who use tranquilizers. In fact, most often, the vets supplied those tranquilizers and trust them to use the drugs responsibly.

My interest is what’s best for the horse. There is no monetary gain to me whether a DVM or a CED works on my horses or my client’s horses.

My concern is if the DVMs have their way, then only a vet or a vet-assisted person could provide dental care. It means that we are paying more for the service.

And what is the quality of service? Vets have limited training for dental work, while CEDs train exclusively for it.

My personal experience has taught me that the vast majority of vets working on horses’ mouths are not doing proper work. When I discuss performance floats or bit seats and how they are suppose to function, these vets are often ill-informed.

The need for equine dentistry exceeds the number of qualified professionals available to do the work. Excluding the CEDs would only create a larger void.

Equine dentist Phil Ratliff examines a horse

If vets are truly concerned with the horses and the horse owners, they should support the establishment of a certifying board represented by DVMs and CEDs, to approve a unbiased list of “Qualified Equine Dentists” based on their ability and effort. Applicants need to be judged on their performance of equine dentistry, not how long they went to school and how much money was spent on knowledge unrelated to equine dentistry.

Good Luck and God Bless,

Martin Black

Read article on how teeth connect to hooves.

Posted in BestHorsePractices Summit, Clinicians, Health.


  1. Thanks Martin. The scope of practice battle continues in all the health professions. Vets/farriers/CEDs, Physical Therapists/Massage Therapists/Chiropractors/MDs/Osteopaths…. I always tell people it’s the skill of the practitioner that matters more than the letters attached. Yet, it’s easy to bamboozle people if they haven’t done their own research first. If the AMA and AVA had their way, NO one would be able to practice without their supervision. Phooey.

  2. Then again, how many times does a person have to successfully work on a horse’s teeth before he/she is deemed to be competent? How many horses does a person have to ruin before he/she is deemed incompetent? To state that an individual’s qualifications in any field should be based solely on their performance is irresponsible. There must be a mark an individual must meet before starting actual practice.

    There must be some kind of regulation in the industry to determine some sort of fundamental qualification as a base or starting point. There must be some sort of certifying body. Whether certification is based solely on education or apprenticeship or a combination of the two is the topic that we should be discussing.

    I know of at least two horses that died as a direct result of an incompetent horse dentist’s work on them. I know of at least two others that were saved by the work of a competent horse dentist. I also have personally been referred to a horse dentist by a DVM, who indicated my horse needed his teeth done, when, in fact, there was no need for it. I discovered later the CED was working under the DVM’s supervision (per Arizona law) and the DVM was receiving a commission for each horse the CED worked on.

    There is no single right answer, but there definitely is a need for a regulatory agency or association in the industry.

  3. If a dental hygienist is licensed to clean teeth and goes thru 2 to 4 years of training, both
    academical snd clinically, aren’t they MORE
    qualified to do a prophylaxis than a dds?

    So if an equine dentist student goes thru 3 to 4
    6 werk sessions of training for a very specific job, they know more about it.
    Yes, they study anatomy, histology and physiology..along with clinical study.
    Dont quite understand why DMV s are so against it!

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